dead-ender. he said in his manifesto basically, that he would not be taken alive. this was hope that he could be taken, arrested. but at some point public safety was tremendously endangered, and this started to be an urgency with him moving around. did he come into contact with people who could be dead today. the body count could be higher. a police officer was killed trying to bring him to justice. it's a sad ending but he chose the method, the mode, and the time of his death. >> michael: yes, it did seem--i predicted that was how it was going to end. it seemed like it was goinger--in your profession, you call it a dead-ender, it seemed like this is the way it was going to end. it's sad for everybody who worked with that police officer and for the family, it's unthinkable. it could have been worse and i think the miss are to be credited. the police may have been involved in how it did end.